I bumped into an interesting piece of information last night while reading comments posted under a blog post about OneCoin. A Norwegian Bitcoin Blockchain Specialist commented that at some point last year OneCoin had tried recruiting him to create a blockchain for the company.
After reading the comment I contacted Bjorn Bjercke to find out what had happened. Bjorn let me know that last year he was approached by a Japan based recruiting agency ASENSHIA with this message:
"C Level" refers to a top position in a company. The conversation between Bjorn and the agency continued via phone. He was then introduced the idea of becoming a blockchain creator for a company.
Bjorn Bjercke: "We spoke on the phone, where he laid out all the details but held back that it was OneCoin to the end."
He was offered a position as a CTO (Chief Technology Officer) and a significant amount of money. "That's when I got really suspicious." states Bjorn. At the end of the conversation ASENSHIA's representative revealed that the company behind the offer was OneCoin. As Bjorn was already aware of OneCoin being a scam and knew that the idea of a centralised cryptocurrency is a joke, he turned down the offer.
The recruiting agency ASENSHIA doesn't seem to have any known connection to OneCoin. The agency's homepage let's us know that ASENSHIA is an executive search firm focused on direct selling industry, direct marketing industry and digital marketing.
As suspected OneCoin obviously had no blockchain to begin with when the coin was launched about two years ago. The attempt to recruit Bjorn only confirms the suspicions. Evidently the company has been desperately trying to have a blockchain set up last year - well after the bogus cryptocurrency was launched. The scammers may have been fearing authorities after noticing that one simply can't have a cryptocurrency without a blockchain. This kind of outsourcing also reveals that the company has no expertise to generate a blockchain on its own.
Like Bjorn puts it in his comment: "They are not mining coins but they are using a MS SQL server where they have scripted coin creation."
Here's more about Bjorn Bjercke:
mrbitcoin.no
After reading the comment I contacted Bjorn Bjercke to find out what had happened. Bjorn let me know that last year he was approached by a Japan based recruiting agency ASENSHIA with this message:
"We are currently working on a C Level search that may interest you. Can you suggest when you may be free for a call and the best number to reach you on?"
"C Level" refers to a top position in a company. The conversation between Bjorn and the agency continued via phone. He was then introduced the idea of becoming a blockchain creator for a company.
Bjorn Bjercke: "We spoke on the phone, where he laid out all the details but held back that it was OneCoin to the end."
He was offered a position as a CTO (Chief Technology Officer) and a significant amount of money. "That's when I got really suspicious." states Bjorn. At the end of the conversation ASENSHIA's representative revealed that the company behind the offer was OneCoin. As Bjorn was already aware of OneCoin being a scam and knew that the idea of a centralised cryptocurrency is a joke, he turned down the offer.
The recruiting agency ASENSHIA doesn't seem to have any known connection to OneCoin. The agency's homepage let's us know that ASENSHIA is an executive search firm focused on direct selling industry, direct marketing industry and digital marketing.
OneCoin had no blockchain to begin with
As suspected OneCoin obviously had no blockchain to begin with when the coin was launched about two years ago. The attempt to recruit Bjorn only confirms the suspicions. Evidently the company has been desperately trying to have a blockchain set up last year - well after the bogus cryptocurrency was launched. The scammers may have been fearing authorities after noticing that one simply can't have a cryptocurrency without a blockchain. This kind of outsourcing also reveals that the company has no expertise to generate a blockchain on its own.
Like Bjorn puts it in his comment: "They are not mining coins but they are using a MS SQL server where they have scripted coin creation."
Here's more about Bjorn Bjercke:
mrbitcoin.no
Hey,
ReplyDeleteI believe you, I really do. Nothing there sounds implausible considering the OneCoin-related events so far. But then there's the "anonymous bloggers are baiting links"-crowd which will make two questions:
1) So did ASENSHIA ever even mention OneCoin or did Bjorn just come to that conclusion?
2) Did ASENSHIA ever even mention MS SQL or did Bjorn just come to that conclusion?
I too would like to know.
YES! ASENSHIA was reluctant to say what company it was. They wanted to sell me the Idea of this C-Level opportunity before disclosing that it was OneCoin at the end of our second conversation. (see my Clarification for question 2.)
DeleteTo clarify,
ReplyDelete"They are not mining coins but they are using a MS SQL server where they have scripted coin creation."
From what the rep. at ASENSHIA described, a non-technical person, It sounded much like a MS SQL or could maybe but doubtful Oracle DB as that is way too expensive for this organization and without a credible CTO. It was very clear from our conversation that they did not have a blockchain.
The part about; Scripted coin creation, is just an assumption by me, as I would have done it that way if I bypassed a Blockchain.
Okay: they named OneCoin and current storage was a database of some sort. I'm happy with that accuracy. :D
DeleteYou did noice Bjorn wrote "just an assumption by me"
DeleteWhat we really should now think is what did OneCoin leadership see worth $2.5M in having their own blockchain? Clearly they had decided that a blockchain would be worth that much but how?
ReplyDeleteExit plan? Or safety measure for the future?
The reason for paying a blockchain specialist to make a blood oath to Ruja would be to have credibility to the scam coin. Then Bjorn would have been a key speaker in events etc. Also it doesn't hurt to have an actual blockchain in case authorities make their moves and scammers get sued. And furthermore having an actual cryptocurrency could enhance the scam to go even further by giving new possibilities.
DeleteThat 2.5 million dollars could have been money well spent so to speak.
RE: “If they had a blockchain would it matter? Like they still double the coin, lie, and you can’t actually do anything with your coins!”
ReplyDelete1.) it 100% PROVES the company STARTED AS AN INTENTIONED PONZI!!! This is EXPLOSIVE INFORMATION FOR REGULATORS AND AUTHORITIES TRACKING THEM!
2.) It 100% PROVES that there is no “mining” taking place and never was, AND THERE IS NO MASSIVE SERVERS, as Dr. Scrud’ja has many times claimed. It PROVES she didn’t create ANYTHING and that she is the Founder of nothing more than #vaporware pseudo-cryptocurrency scam tied to an MLM ponzi idea, which all of her co-conspirators/ associates are professionals and trained con-artists in previously pulling off
3.) it also 100% PROVES that Onecoin KNOWS they’re in a heap of shit and that the scam grew MANY TIMES BIGGER than they had any way of anticipating, and that they have attempted to fix the unfixable in their stupid scamming naivety by mixing ponzi with a technology they never had a clue about. They have desperately tried to mitigate an unfixable problem, which started in January 2015 when they began exchanging ponzi tokens for ponzi point coins (I believe that the recruitment inquiry likely went out just before the London Event, CoinRush; with them dissecting that if they “threw money at it,” by the time of the Criminal Mastermind Event in Bangkok on October 1st, that they could *simply “turn off” the old blockchain, transfer the database script to the new blockchain (Lol!!!) and “switch it on.”
3.) it 100% PROVES that Ruja Iguanatova and her lizard army don’t understand even the fundamental basics about cryptocurrency OR blockchain technology, and that there is NO NEED to run am Excel-type script in a SQL database environment on anything other than Ruja’s laptop (and maybe a couple backup servers due to storage); AS ALWAYS SUSPECTED!
4.) Lastly, it finally 100% PROVES that the situation is UNRECOVERABLE and that now they have simply resorted to playing carnival games with spinning wheels, doubling coins multiple times, splitting and “super-splitting” ponzi tokens in spreadsheet columns and rows.
5.) BONUS Analogy: it’s why the “practice Exchange” was closed and why #DealShitter has effectively shifted the Symantecs of the game into OneCOUPONzi.
IMHO, I believe this gives Authorities and Regulators the fuel needed to really REALLY attack now, and to ALSO truly, once-and-for-all rip the classification of the scam apart from anything having to ever having done with “cryptocurrency” – which was/ IS the mission and goal of all cryptocurrency advocates battling against it for the past 2+ years 🙂
ummm, Bjorn wrote that sql and no mining were his assumption.
DeleteHow can someones assumption be 100% proof of novel you wrote...
RE: “If they had a blockchain would it matter? Like they still double the coin, lie, and you can’t actually do anything with your coins!”
ReplyDelete1.) it 100% PROVES the company STARTED AS AN INTENTIONED PONZI!!! This is EXPLOSIVE INFORMATION FOR REGULATORS AND AUTHORITIES TRACKING THEM!
2.) It 100% PROVES that there is no “mining” taking place and never was, AND THERE IS NO MASSIVE SERVERS, as Dr. Scrud’ja has many times claimed. It PROVES she didn’t create ANYTHING and that she is the Founder of nothing more than #vaporware pseudo-cryptocurrency scam tied to an MLM ponzi idea, which all of her co-conspirators/ associates are professionals and trained con-artists in previously pulling off
3.) it also 100% PROVES that Onecoin KNOWS they’re in a heap of shit and that the scam grew MANY TIMES BIGGER than they had any way of anticipating, and that they have attempted to fix the unfixable in their stupid scamming naivety by mixing ponzi with a technology they never had a clue about. They have desperately tried to mitigate an unfixable problem, which started in January 2015 when they began exchanging ponzi tokens for ponzi point coins (I believe that the recruitment inquiry likely went out just before the London Event, CoinRush; with them dissecting that if they “threw money at it,” by the time of the Criminal Mastermind Event in Bangkok on October 1st, that they could *simply “turn off” the old blockchain, transfer the database script to the new blockchain (Lol!!!) and “switch it on.”
3.) it 100% PROVES that Ruja Iguanatova and her lizard army don’t understand even the fundamental basics about cryptocurrency OR blockchain technology, and that there is NO NEED to run am Excel-type script in a SQL database environment on anything other than Ruja’s laptop (and maybe a couple backup servers due to storage); AS ALWAYS SUSPECTED!
4.) Lastly, it finally 100% PROVES that the situation is UNRECOVERABLE and that now they have simply resorted to playing carnival games with spinning wheels, doubling coins multiple times, splitting and “super-splitting” ponzi tokens in spreadsheet columns and rows.
5.) BONUS Analogy: it’s why the “practice Exchange” was closed and why #DealShitter has effectively shifted the Symantecs of the game into OneCOUPONzi.
IMHO, I believe this gives Authorities and Regulators the fuel needed to really REALLY attack now, and to ALSO truly, once-and-for-all rip the classification of the scam apart from anything having to ever having done with “cryptocurrency” – which was/ IS the mission and goal of all cryptocurrency advocates battling against it for the past 2+ years 🙂
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ReplyDeleteYou could have stopped at this:
Delete"Message: PDOStatement::execute(): MySQL server has gone away"
In general, I have hard time trying to figure out any blockchain data that could not be also stored as a SQL database. The point of a blockchain is not that it can store some data that SQL database could not. ;)
Explain this....
ReplyDeleteHOW CAN WE PAY SOMETHING WITH ONECOINS IF THERE IS NO BLOCKCHAIN??
In addition to what Tim pointed out, the centralised mining OneCoin claims to do is an absurdity. Using massive amounts of computing power and years of time to create a centralised cryptocurrency would be utterly stupid. It's like using a nuclear power plant to light up a candle.
DeleteA centralised cryptocurrency could be created with a single laptop. Even then it would be very questionable to have people invest in the currency, let alone trust the creators.
How can you pay something from your credit/debit card if there is no blockchain?
DeleteBank moves a number from one column (your account) to another (the merchant account). So simple.
Same with OneCoin that provenly has no blockchain.
The point is to make an immutable ledger, distributed on a wide enough network that you are not depending on 3rd party intermediaries, particularly those who are custodians OF YOUR MONEY. You do NOT want a third party holding your "private key," anymore then you want a homeless man to hold and watch your wallet for you for days or weeks at a time (no disrespect to the homeless). IN FACT, in Onecoin scam, the peole you've agreed to hold your money are MUCH MORE likely to steal it or cheat you, in that ALL of the main players in Onecoin have a terrible history of losing $10's or even $100's of millions of dollars for their members, WITHOUT EXCEPTION!!! Some, like "Dr." Ruja "the #KleptoQueen" Iguanatova, have already been CONVICTED OF FRAUD AND EMBEZZLING MONEY FROM EMPLOYEES!
ReplyDeleteSo, not only is a centralized system, like Onecoin, susceptible to the age old mantra of "Power Corrupts and Absolute Power Corrupts, Absolutely," meaning that greed knows no limits; but Onecoin has implemented draconian Capital Controls on YOUR money, closed any means of exchanging it (Xcoinx), is aiming for a twice failed IPO (via OFC - a term Frank Rickets, Sebastian Greenwood and Kenny Nordlund INVENTED and used to fleece investors in the Unaico/SiteTalk/OPN ponzi THEFT, and subsequent CRASH of any shares, as they DUMPED THEM IMMEDIATELY, leaving investors to hold the worthless bags)... BUT WE KNOW NOW FOR A FACT THAT THERE IS NO BLOCKCHAIN!
The "blockchain" alleviates any need for central trust. TRUST is based on MATH within a true blockchain, therefore solving "The Byzantine Emperor's Problem," which was the solution Bitcoin (and a limited number of other cryptocurrencies solved).
Ignatova sold the Sofia office building among other properties earlier this month: http://behindmlm.com/companies/onecoin/onecoin-sells-bulgarian-headquarters-to-unknown-buyer/
ReplyDeleteDear Bjorn Bjercke,
ReplyDeleteHow can you write correct English here while you were not able to write a word without spelling mistake a few days ago?
Also, you claim having declined a $2.5 million annual salary simply because OneCoin is a scam (in your mind). But if you had made the OneCoin blockchain, OneCoin would not be a scam anymore. Are you kind of silly?
ReplyDeleteAs a onecoiner you might have difficulties in understanding this, but there are actually people who don't want to get involved in a scam even if lured with 2.5 million dollars.
DeleteCreating a blockchain afterwards doesn't change things. OneCoin would still be a scam with worthless coins. It would just be a scam with a blockchain.
"Unknown24 February 2017 at 14:10
ReplyDeleteExplain this....
HOW CAN WE PAY SOMETHING WITH ONECOINS IF THERE IS NO BLOCKCHAIN??"
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This is a fair question and we will try to explain this in simple terms.
A Database (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Database) is a collection of data, recorded in tables.
For each ACCOUNT (identified by login name and probably some other id/number which is not visible for users), the OneLife database contains, among others, tables with Onecoin-Account, Cash-account, Tokens-account, Trading-account and CoinSafe-Account, so all accounts behind menu option "My Accounts".
The overall OneLife database consists of (at least) two separate databases:
A. REAL-database with above mentioned data of ACCOUNTS.
If you submit Tokens for "mining", or transfer OneCoins to a downline or Upline member, or pay a merchant, transactions are recorded in this database.
B. FAKE-BLOCKCHAIN-database with fake/simulation data of Blocks and Transactions
Hyperlink: https://www.onelife.eu/backend/cryptocurrency/blockchain
The REAL-database and the FAKE-BLOCKCHAIN-database may be recorded on the same hard disk on the same servers, but apart from that they are separated.
So to answer your question, if you pay a merchant, a OneCoin-transaction is recorded in the REAL-database. This OneCoin-transaction contains, among others, your ACCOUNT-id, the Merchant's ACCOUNT-ID, a Date/Timestamp and the number of OneCoins.
This transaction is NOT recorded in (and has no connection whatsoever with) the FAKE-BLOCKCHAIN-database.
Note 1: If you submit Tokens for mining, you will see "Mining Pool" data on the Cryptocurrency / Mining page.
Hyperlink: https://www.onelife.eu/backend/cryptocurrency/mining
These data are connected to your ACCOUNT (you can still see them months after the event) but they have no meaning at all and are fake.
Note 2: for two ACCOUNTS we can access, we found that the complete history of mutations in the Cash-account and Trading-account have been deleted. This is very, VERY alarming because it means that it is no longer possible to check the correctness of the current Balance (which SEEMS to be correct still).
However in our opinion this is an attempt to embezzle evidence.
We hope this helps. Feel free to ask further question, our support desk is open 7 days a week!
All claims from Bjorn Bjerke are his own assumptions as he wrote above in a comment. Proof screenshot: https://d.pr/7vHyT1
ReplyDeleteHe has no proof that Onecoin has no blockchain and his claims that Asenshia called him are total lie and here are proof of that from Asenshia them selves:
https://d.pr/p4XEV
https://d.pr/BIuVyH
http://d.pr/i/99Flok
https://youtu.be/xtyocPHwVec
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